Thirteen demonstrators, calling themselves "We Stand With Christopher Dorner," gathered in front of Los Angeles Police Department's headquarters in Los Angeles Saturday to decry the death of the fired L.A. policeman as he faced arrest.
The small number of protesters was expected to grow throughout the day, organizers said.
"We're protesting some of the police brutality -- not just LAPD, but all over the nation," said Lomita resident Vincent Namm, a former Marine. "With Chris Dorner, habeas corpus just got thrown out the window."
"I'm a veteran myself," he told City News Service. "It's like they (the police) were judge, jury and executioner. Of course, if the police are those three things, we have something called a police state.
"They didn't seem like they were even interested in apprehending him," Hamm said.
Radio communications between San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies captured deputies calling on colleagues to burn down the cabin near Angelus Oaks, where the suspected cop-killer had just shot two deputies and was holed up.
Dorner had already killed two policemen and the daughter of a retired officer, and was shooting at the deputies when the radio messages were broadcast.
San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon insisted Friday that deputies did not intentionally set fire to the cabin to get Dorner out of the cabin. McMahon said the comments were not made by command personnel and were unauthorized, off-hand remarks by deputies or officers who were under heavy gunfire.
Saturday's demonstrators began to gather a little before 10 a.m. near the corner of First and Main streets before making their way to 100 W. First St., where they were met by yellow police tape bordering LAPD headquarters. There were at least three officers at different positions in front of the building, along with three parked television vans.
Some people on social media and elsewhere have expressed support for some of the criticisms of the department Dorner expressed in a lengthy manifesto posed online amid his 10-day killing spree. Facebook pages such as ‘We Are All Chris Dorner’ popped up during the former cop’s killing spree, featuring a photo from the last Los Angeles riots and earning nearly 5,000 likes. Other Facebook pages such as ‘Chris Dorner and the Revolution’ also popped up in support of the former LAPD officer suspected of four murders.
"The police don't do the right things -- especially when it comes to Latinos and blacks," said Antonia Ramos, one of the protesters. "It wasn't fair how this guy (Dorner) died."
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That's what people do in a free society, Averagejoe. Question authority. When people have the power to kill people they need lots and lots of scrutiny. And if they screw up they need to be held accountable. The cops that shot that 71 year old female asian newspaper deliverer need to get fired. And it shouldn't take 6 months to do it. All involved should be on their way out right now. They are like Dorner's with a badge. But naturally the cops will make excuses for them. Unlike they made excuses for Dorner when he was fire. See how it works yet??? "Just remember that law enforcement are the only ones between the criminals and us." The problem is some cops are criminals and are never held accountable. I could give you dozens of examples. There is a DOUBLE standard and cops are held to a LOWER standard. And that is the truth. And everyone know that's the CODE OF SILENCE is alive and well in police work. But people like you don't complain about that, do you? The CODE OF SILENCE allows bad cops to keep their jobs and continue to violate the laws with immunity. Why don't you whine about that while you complain about Dorner? Huh???
Yes, basically Williams said that Dorner lived by a higher moral code than most officers and so was out of place and out of his element. When those around you cover for one another and you refuse to play that game, the stress must be enormous. It finally drove him crazy, especially when he was fired for snitching off another cop. Dorner has a stellar background. Naval officer, Top Secret clearance, passed all the LAPD tests, to include background investigations, psych evals and polygraphs. So Dorner was fine when LAPD hired him. The problems started after that. Let's be adults here and face the truth.
I don't see anyone on these boards supporting a murderer, Averagejoe. Who specifically are you referring to? Please copy and paste the comment that supports a murderer. I think you are exaggerating. I don't support a murderer. But I don't support the ones that drove a man nuts and turned him into a murderer either. But that's the part of the puzzle you don't want to look at. You are very short sighted. Are you a cop or a relative of a cop? Just curious? "Because you are wrongfully fired, doesn't give you the right to take an innocent life." Oh, I totally agree. But when a man basically has his identity stolen from him for snitching off another cop - some men have lower tolerance levels than others. This does not excuse the action. But life is life. The ones who robbed him have blood on their hands too. Why not talk about them? Oh, I forget. You are cop apologist. I forgot.
Something the police department did made Dorner snap but do any of us know for sure if what they did was illegal or keeping the code of silence? Regardless, innocent people did not deserve to die and the police department is not to blame for a man choosing to take his guns and kill others. He chose to do this on his own. All we really know for sure is that Dorner was angry, he made accusations, he wanted revenge and he killed innocent people. We may find out if Dorner was rightfully fired or not but regardless Dorner chose on his own to kill people. People are wronged all the time but they do not go on a killing rampage.
Hold cops accountable just like you would any criminal. It's not that complicated.
The $6M question is: Would the ones you know in LE snitch off another dirty cop? Be honest. I say 95% would not. That is why we rarely hear of cops being prosecuted. It's not because they are so clean. It's because cops cover up for one another. Any honest LEO would tell you the same. The problem is trying to find an honest one.
I have already told you why none of this makes any sense. I am not going to repeat it again. Think as you will. We will NEVER find out of Dorner was illegally fired because it will all get whitewashed by LAPD. You really think LAPD's internal investigation on Dorner's termination will be above board??? heh. Refer back to my comment on common sense, naivete and lack of life experience. Have a good one, Shelly.
More evidence on the morality of law enforcement.
Yes, at times truth can be convenient. It's takes much more energy to deny it than to embrace it. "You have the only correct answer for everything it seems. Meanwhile the rest of us will judge, or not, based on what we know or don't know." I certainly don't know 'everything'. Far from it. But I use deep logic and rational thinking to arrive at my conclusions. I use truth as my ballast. I do everything that I can to resist allowing political ideology or prejudices to form my viewpoints. I noticed that you failed to answer my question above: "Would the ones you know in LE snitch off another dirty cop? Be honest." Quite telling. Have a nice evening, factchecker.
I've never read the writings of a more morally weak man when it comes to cheerleading such a corrupted profession. If I were his dad I would be thoroughly ashamed.
Okay, now stalk me like a little barfly and tell me how bad I am! heh. :^)
The people I know in law enforcement would do the honorable and honest thing.
There are hundreds/thousands of JustUs'. They is due. Social Justice, their Fair Share. You didn't build that. Society, the Man, Capitalism have intentionally oppressed the aggrieved. Setting aside that others from similar circumstances have achieved great things. If you don't have the things your neighbor has, you've been oppressed. Any action (in JustUs' pea brain) is justified.
If you were Dorner, would you say it was o.k. to fry you in the cabin before a trial?
You have a great moniker. It shows. Do to the fact the sheriffs were OUT NUMBERED. Were running out of AMMUNITION. Had little FOOD. No aerial surveillance. Annnddd the victim was not totally surrounded they should of burned the cabin with the same type of grenades they used in Waco, Texas. Kill them all. Let God sort them out. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.
"I think people are innocent until proven guilty". Funny. You already made Dorner guilty!!! Your very selective....... lol lol
Ohh to educate the uneducated is a chore. Most people are not stupid. They just have bad luck thinking!!!!
We trained him to be a killer, remember he was a soldier thats what they do is kill. So we are shocked that he would kill after being wronged. Hmmm interesting Oh that's right he should be able to do the right thing. Yes a trained killer with a conscience. The LAPD has been dirty for decades and it goes all the way up to top level. Dorner had no chance of getting his life back ...
Spoken like a true follower of God. Not a plastic one. Humans selectively practice their moral code. It's like a light switch. They turn in on and off at will. When the home team violates the moral code it automatically gets swtiched off. When the opposing team commits a 'foul' the switch automatically gets turned on and the bright shining lights flood the sky. That's the common modus operandi of the common human being. Don't expect too much from them. You'll only live with disappointment. Take good care.
You mean like the cops always do, Averagejoe? You mean like the cops did with unarmed decorated black Marine Sergeant Manuel Loggins when they executed him from his backside right in front of his 2 minor daughters as they sat only feet behind him in their family car, and then afterwards blamed Sgt. Loggins for their actions? Is that what you meant by 'shifts the blame'? Please respond, sir.