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Boeing to Close Seal Beach Facilities

Major companywide reductions include plans to vacate and sell two buildings in Seal Beach. Boeing Co. has not said whether that will mean layoffs for local workers.

Boeing Co announced on Wednesday it will close two facilities in Seal Beach as part of a larger overall effort to cut $1.6 billion by the end of 2015.

The Pentagon's second-largest supplier, Boeing announced plans to consolidate several business units, close a handful of Southern California facilities and reduce executive level staffing by 30 percent from 2010 highs.

“In southern California, in Seal Beach, we have several buildings there. We’ll vacate two and try to sell them,” company spokesman Todd Blecher told the Chicago Sun-Times.

Blecher predicted that a 10 percent reduction in facility space would be an alternative measure to closing down plants.

Boeing officials told Reuters they could not predict the number of layoffs that will result from the restructuring because the company would attempt to transfer the affect employees to units outside the shrinking defense units.

Nationwide, Boeing employees nearly 170,000 people. The Seal Beach facility includes Boeing’s Boeing Phantom Works unit.

Edgar November 09, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Hey, I have lived the good life in the USA, retired from two companies, have great retirement /benefits, so why should I care, well it is still my country. I have seen it going down hill as I have a great deal of “points of reference” and have lived them since Harry Truman, so if you don’t read history you will fall into the trap most people are now in. Our Government is failing us , and we are a diluted society who only wants to live socialism, or be a 5th. Generation welfare family. And who favored NAFTA ?Like Ross Perot said there would be a loud sucking sound...he wasn't wrong......then along came China...what do you mean no one party is at fault for technology going bye bye, as I recall the Peanut Farmer (Carter) cancelled the B-1 Bomber, Regan Brought it back, created hundreds of thousands of jobs, Clinton cancelled the B-2 Program, look at NASA the shuttle is gone, and nothing replaced it , just old technology of the Apollo program by a commercial program. Where did all the computer technology come from, it was spin-offs of the space race. I am quite certain that I saw the peak of our countries technology strides, excellent economy, great retirement / benefits programs from industry. I don’t think the next generations will ever have what we worked for and are now enjoying. That is the sad part of it all. And our useless two party system sits in Washington DC infighting while the middle class shrinks, as the country goes the way of the Greeks .
BLUESGUITAR777 November 09, 2012 at 04:14 PM
You got what you voted for...
John B. Greet November 09, 2012 at 05:25 PM
"...the company would attempt to transfer the affect(ed) employees to units outside the shrinking defense units." How many of those non-defense units will prove to be outside of California altogether? When Boeing closed it's 717 plant in Long Beach in 2006, we lost about 1,200 skilled manufacturing jobs never to return. Transitioning the Boeing C-17 plant to a "post-production" status has alreay begun and when it finally closes its doors, another **6,000** people will find themselves out of work. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/13/business/la-fi-boeing-long-beach-20120713 CA's economy countinues to founder and State legislators are doing *nothing* to encourage more companies to come here to do business (and create jobs) and everything *possible* to drive away those which *are* here. CA has the third highest seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate in the nation, the highest overall taxation in the country, and is consistently rated as having among the worst business climates in the nation. Businesses are fleeing California in record numbers and taking more and more jobs with them. Meanwhile States like Texas, Florida, and North Carolina are *attracting* businesses with lower corporate tax rates and more reasonable regulations. The folks most responsible for California's consistently poor business rankings (next to the voters themselves) are Democrats who control the State legislature... ...and they just gained a supermajority. Tick tock, California!
tiny November 09, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Just create a new strip mall and open a global village nail salon, a new ToysRUs and an INnOut. This way you create new jobs for those lost, the unemployment rate remains unchanged and people can cut their drive time for these services which is a plus since gas prices will be going up.
MN November 09, 2012 at 07:34 PM
Yup, and I am going to move my company out of California. Can't take the risk of a super majority democrat base who can raise taxes further. I will now work from January 1 through July 1 for Uncle Sam before I can work for myself. I will go to Texas most likely and take 60 high paying jobs with me. California BIG LOSER. What idiots.
Charles November 09, 2012 at 08:47 PM
If Boeing made MP3 players, How much would one cost and how much would one weigh?
jb November 09, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Good luck finding qualified employees in Texas.
WORKERBEEINCA November 09, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Rosa-Your comment actually made me laugh because I believe you are just being facetious and then I remembered that there are really people who are so uninformed/misinformed, that they actually believe this stuff.... My point is - I hope what I am reading in your comment is just an extension of your dry sense of humor...
WORKERBEEINCA November 09, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Until California and our Federal Government provide better tax incentives for business (large and small); there will be no large employes coming our way and few small ones for that matter. What people seem to forget is that we are a global market. In order for the "rich" or "big business" to remain competitive, they must be able to produce their product/services and to sell them for a competitive price. We (Americans) are looking for the "deal". We are not willing and some times not able to pay for a higher priced item just because it was made in America. Without tax incentives, American companies will continue to downsize, pay lower salaries, and in some cases, close their doors.
Caryn OBrien November 09, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Just an FYI for Mr. Veturis. The tax rate was very steep, back then. However, there were so many loopholes for deductions etc., before the tax reform act of 1986, that the actual personal income tax collected was about the same as it always has been historically. Between 15 and 20%. Please try not to distort the facts for your own aggrandizement.
Edgar November 09, 2012 at 11:25 PM
JB...don't let the door of stupidity hit you on the way out, Texas has over 250 aerospace companies , Boeing has the following divisions in Texas, Boeing Aerospace, Boeing Aerospace Center Boeing San Antonio, Texas Boeing Austin, Boeing Del Rio, Boeing Boeing Denton, Boeing Harlingen, Texas Lockheed has the following in Texas Lockheed Martin Cargo MissionHouston, Texas Lockheed Martin El Paso, Texas Lockheed Martin Richardson, Texas lockheed Martin Grand Prairie, Texas lockheed Martin Houston, Texas Lockheed Martin El Paso, Texas ockheed Martin Fort Worth, Texas Lockheed Martin Killeen, Texas Lockheed Martin Rio Grande City, Texas Lockheed Martin Fort Worth, Texas Lockheed Martin Webster, Texas Lockheed Martin Sheppard Afb, Texas Wichita County. Lockheed Martin Corpus Christi, Texas Lockheed. Most of these companies have moved out of Calif, and more are on the way, California screwed up big time , big taxes, big government, no business savey .....better bone up before you make rash statements like that.....you may be looking for a job in Texas soon.............
WORKERBEEINCA November 09, 2012 at 11:31 PM
@Mark V - I am not defending/promoting Obama or Romney but I do believe it is important that we as Americans be cautious in believing the propaganda that is fed to us by either party. Part of Obama's campaign was to mislead the public in to believing Romney did not pay his fair share of taxes and in fact, paid less than the average middle class American. People often confuse marginal tax rates with effective tax rates. Marginal rates are what you pay on each additional dollar of income, so that can be as high as 35 percent. The effective tax rate is the percentage of taxes you pay after deductions, adjustments and the like. Romney's effective tax rate was 14% and this was after donating 14% of his income to charity. The average effective tax rate for middle class America - 9%. Look it up.
Larry Jackson November 10, 2012 at 12:48 AM
Corporations do not pay taxes - the consumers that do business with them pay corportate taxes, because corporations calculate them into the price of the goods or services that they sell. When you persuade your government to increase taxes on corporations, you are imposing that tax increase upon yourself. If you are one of the 47% who pay no taxes, guess what? You just increased a tax on yourself that you didn't realize you were paying in the first place. Go ahead, tax big oil - but just realize that you are increasing the price you are paying at the pump, and that they are just passing their taxes on to you to maintain their "obscene" profits. You may be eager to tax the rich, but think about it - when was it that a poor person ever gave you a job?
jb November 10, 2012 at 01:01 AM
@edgar, I worked for Boeing in Texas for over a year. A lot of the people working for those companies also moved to Texas from California. Actually I did not meet anyone who had been hired locally. Boeing at one time was offering some great incentives to anyone who accepted a transfer to Texas. Fortunately, my assignment was temporary - I returned to California as fast as I could.
Charles November 10, 2012 at 01:05 AM
If it is close and nice, it isn't cheap. If it is close and cheap, it isn't nice. If it is nice and cheap, it isn't close.
Panglonymous November 10, 2012 at 03:30 AM
Heads, they win, tails we lose? Capital!
BB November 12, 2012 at 08:40 PM
jb, good for you! You and other ignorant government teet-gnawers will be happier by the year as high taxing, welfare paying govt trolls gain more & more ground in CA. What you in your immeasurable ignorance see as a promised land (CA) is fast becoming a 3rd world area to live in. Of course, there's no way you could see that when you rarely leave your PJ's in your aging mother's basement. As for skilled workers? Yeah, you worked at Boeing. Riiiiiiiight!!!! Texas has one of the top three largest labor pool of highly skilled workers, particularly in the tech industries. Your assault on their labor force reveals that you are an ignorant & completely uninformed liberal troll, pining away for more socialist freebies on the backs of hard-working Americans who are being a$$ reamed by criminals such as Obama & Jerry Brown. Go back to sleep, jb....you're a useless troll.
Alan Smerling November 14, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Boeing is a Corporation of liars, unethical management and bully's who lied to Southern California, our 2 useless Senators about bringing the 737 line to Long Beach when they purchased McDonnell Douglas, stole 70,000 pages of plans to Lockheed's Heavy launch vehicle which lead to the Government ending their rocket business and forcing them into a partnership with Lockheed, paying off Air Force officials to steal (back) the Tanker Contract, after they bought Arlene Drewyn DoD Procurement Director by guaranteeing her family jobs and now closing Anaheim, Huntington Beach and Seal Beach facilities, thanks to their Real Estate division, have cashed in on So Cal Real Estate prices to feed their greedy stakeholders - Good ridden's to BAD RUBISH!!!
Edgar November 14, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Like I said, USA has dumbed down to the point that they re elected a farce for a president, and a two party system that was the End of an Empire Our Constitutional Republic died a peaceful death on November 6, 2012. Having reached the point of no return in a comatose state after years of progressive and illegal immigration assaults, the fabric of conservative society is now completely unraveled and Uncle Sam’s America is no more.The United States of America is now relegated to the dust bin of history as a “has been” empire. The Shining City on the Hill, the hope of so many millions since July 4, 1776, no longer exists. What rises from the ashes is a country that few of us will recognize, like, or learn to accept submissively.
jb November 14, 2012 at 06:29 PM
bb - my oh my, I must have hit a nerve again. I noticed this is the first, and I hope, only comment you have submitted to Patch. Please leave California as soon as possible, both Texas and Idaho are good places for people like you.
jb November 14, 2012 at 06:30 PM
bb - Did your application for a job at Boeing get turned down?
jb November 14, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Edgar, BB, etc. - The people of this country have spoken, our democracy is alive and well. President Obama was elected to a second term. Get over it.
The Beast ! November 14, 2012 at 07:43 PM
Seth, You voted for these changes in goverment. You voted for Jerry Brown and obama, so why not give your true feelings about cooporate america. Your a fraud !
Edgar November 14, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Must I tell you again.....I've seen and lived the past and history is telling the deaf ears here in the United States to wake up, and your prospect doesn't matter to you???? because by that logic you profess is just exactly what it wrong. Damn you just don't see the light do you.....???Call me back after next four years and tell me how we’re all doing….bet your judgment will tender a dissimilar narrative. I hate to cash in my “I Told You So” .
Edgar November 14, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Hey Northrop tried to get the tanker built in France by Frogs.......and Air Bus.......talk to Northrop's Phil Crosby.....another two faced American..........Boeing has done more for this country than most .....it gave a lot of blue collar people jobs that made them live a better life, go to college on Boeing's tab.....and that isn't good for America, tell us what is since you've called down big industry...flipping burgers at a fast food place is not a good job, but people are fighting for that vary job now because there are no good blue collar or white collar jobs in that industry here in Calif. once had.
Mark Veturis November 15, 2012 at 05:49 AM
Edgar, you must have missed this weeks republicon talking point. You are no longer allowed to talk bad about illegals, it's time to flip and flop on that issue, so stay up man, as i would hate to see you kicked out of the republicon party
Watts November 15, 2012 at 09:23 AM
"Must I tell you again.....I've seen and lived the past" Please Edgar, tell us again. The readers here are so captivated by your every word, that we do not mind at all if you repeat yourself about the origins of your wisdom.
jb November 15, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Edgar - I made the decision not to respond to your last comment, but here goes. "Must I tell you again.....I've seen and lived the past" - I too have seen and lived the past, In the 1970s, I had to live with a president who resigned before he could be impeached and removed from office for breaking the laws of this country. In the 1980s, a president who started the war on the middle class. In the 2000s, a president who started two unfunded wars that killed thousands of American soldiers and many more civilians - and are the major cause of the financial problems we have today. My point is (if you are still reading) is that we live in a democracy, if you do not like the people running our government, vote them out in two/four years. I lived with presidents I could not not tolerate, but I had and still have faith in our form of government. I did not sit around whining, complaining or talking about states seceding from the country (another thread on Patch).
martin, bob November 16, 2012 at 12:59 AM
California does not need companies. Forget about the jobs. Who cares. We can tax ourselves into prosperity. All you silly Independent and Conservative thinkers, such ridiculousness on your part. Jobs are Passe, Old Hat. Quick sign up for the DEMOCRAT PARTY.
enea ostrich November 18, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Update everyone...the jobs arenot lost, just shifted to either of the lasting facilities (El Segundo or Huntington Beach). This interesting feed of discussion seems to be obsolete now. http://losalamitos.patch.com/articles/boeing-closure-will-mean-job-transfers-but-no-cuts

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